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Norman Miller THRALE

Male 1831 - 1900  (69 years)

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  • Name Norman Miller THRALE  [1] 
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    Birth 19 Mar 1830-17 Mar 1831  Luton, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3] 
    Christening Y  [4] 
    Gender Male 
    Alt. Birth Bef 18 Nov 1832  Luton, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Residence 1841  Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6] 
    Grandchildren Norman Thrale (aged 10) and William Thrale (aged 12), sons of Abigail’s son Thomas Thrale, were living - in a cottage in front of St. Helen's Church owned by George Wright - with their grandmother Abigail Thrale née Burchmore, then aged 70, and described in family lore as the “grumpy grandmother.” 
    Census 30 Mar 1851  Cross Keys, Gustard Wood, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Norman Thrale, Nephew, unmarried 19 Miller journeyman born Luton, Beds Working for John & Mary Sibley, Shoemaker & Victualler 
    Physical Description The whole of one of Norman's hands was completely black, caused by the penetration of thousands of steel and stone chippings into the skin.  [7] 
    Occupation Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7] 
    After Kimpton Mill, he went to Hertford Mill which was later burnt down. 
    Occupation Between 28 Nov 1871 and 1891  Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 9, 10] 
    Miller. He was the last miller of three generations, following in his father Thomas and grandfather Ralph's footsteps. Sometime after his wife died in 1884 he returned to his native village of Wheathampstead and worked principally at the Wheathampstead Mill of the Titmuss family. He was considered one of the best millers - and even by that time - very rarely found - stone dressers of the old grinding stones. One had to crawl between the round stone grinding slabs and then chip away new channels in the stone. 
    Residence Between 28 Nov 1871 and 17 Mar 1875  Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation Abt 1877 to Aft 1884  Kimpton, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7] 
    For a time Norman kept Kimpton Mill for his father-in-law. The dates are guesstimated from the dates of the birth of his children born in Hertford and the death of his wife in Hertford. 
    Residence 1881  Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    Port Hill Common 
    Occupation 1900  [11] 
    He was the last known Hertfordshire Thrale to be a farmer, brewer or miller. 
    Death 18 Mar 1900  Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 12] 
    Probate 27 Apr 1900 
    Norman Miller THRALE probate    		 Norman Miller THRALE probate
    THRALE Norman of the Folly Wheathampstead Hertfordshire miller died 18 March 1900 Administration London 27 April to Ernest Norman Thrale confectioner Effects £464 5s. 7d.
    Residence Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Address:
    The Folly PH 
    Burial Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 13, 14] 
    Headstone for Norman Thrale 1830/1 - 1900    		 Headstone for Norman Thrale
    Person ID I258  UK Thrale family | Fairfolds and Hammonds Thrale branch, Marshalswick Thrale branch
    Last Modified 2 May 2025 

    Father Thomas THRALE,   b. 5 Dec 1800, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1840, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 39 years) 
    Mother Sarah THORPE,   b. 1804   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Marriage 1823  Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [15] 
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    Family ID F113  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Caroline WELCH,   b. 1842, Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1884, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 42 years) 
    Marriage 1 Jun 1864  Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [16] 
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    Census 3 Apr 1881  Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [17] 
    Rel / Occ / Age / Sex / Birthplace

    Norman THRALE Rel: Head Occ: C Miller M 49 M Luton, Bedford, England
    Caroline THRALE Rel: Wife M 39 F Codicote, Hertford, England
    Norman THRALE Rel: Son Occ: Scholar U 16 M Wheathampstead, Hertford, England
    Alice THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 12 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England
    Rosa THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 10 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England
    Charlotte THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 9 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England
    Clara THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 6 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England
    Ralph THRALE Rel: Son U 2 M Hertford, Hertford, England
    Infant THRALE Rel: Daur U 6d F Hertford, Hertford, England
    Sophia COBB Rel: Nurse Occ: Monthly Nurse S M S 59 F Kimpton, Hertford, England 
    Address:
    Port Hill Common 
    Children 
     1. Norman Ralph THRALE,   c. 10 Feb 1865, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Ernest Norman THRALE,   b. 1866   d. 2 Jan 1909, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 43 years)
    +3. Elizabeth THRALE,   c. 24 Nov 1867, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     4. Alice Gertrude THRALE,   b. 25 Oct 1868-26 Oct 1869, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     5. Rosa THRALE,   b. 27 Oct 1871, Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Charlotte Amelia THRALE,   b. 23 Apr 1873, Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     7. Clara THRALE,   b. 25 Feb 1875, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    +8. Ralph THRALE,   b. 17 Oct 1878, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 19 Feb 1918, Giavera, Veneto, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 39 years)
    +9. Miriam Kate THRALE,   b. 28 Mar 1881, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1918 (Age 37 years)
     10. May THRALE,   b. 1881   d. 1970 (Age 89 years)
    Family ID F132  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 3 May 2025 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 19 Mar 1830-17 Mar 1831 - Luton, Bedfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAlt. Birth - Bef 18 Nov 1832 - Luton, Bedfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Grandchildren Norman Thrale (aged 10) and William Thrale (aged 12), sons of Abigail’s son Thomas Thrale, were living - in a cottage in front of St. Helen's Church owned by George Wright - with their grandmother Abigail Thrale née Burchmore, then aged 70, and described in family lore as the “grumpy grandmother.” - 1841 - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Norman Thrale, Nephew, unmarried 19 Miller journeyman born Luton, Beds Working for John & Mary Sibley, Shoemaker & Victualler - 30 Mar 1851 - Cross Keys, Gustard Wood, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - After Kimpton Mill, he went to Hertford Mill which was later burnt down. - - Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1 Jun 1864 - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Miller. He was the last miller of three generations, following in his father Thomas and grandfather Ralph's footsteps. Sometime after his wife died in 1884 he returned to his native village of Wheathampstead and worked principally at the Wheathampstead Mill of the Titmuss family. He was considered one of the best millers - and even by that time - very rarely found - stone dressers of the old grinding stones. One had to crawl between the round stone grinding slabs and then chip away new channels in the stone. - Between 28 Nov 1871 and 1891 - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Between 28 Nov 1871 and 17 Mar 1875 - Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - For a time Norman kept Kimpton Mill for his father-in-law. The dates are guesstimated from the dates of the birth of his children born in Hertford and the death of his wife in Hertford. - Abt 1877 to Aft 1884 - Kimpton, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Port Hill Common - 1881 - Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Rel / Occ / Age / Sex / Birthplace Norman THRALE Rel: Head Occ: C Miller M 49 M Luton, Bedford, England Caroline THRALE Rel: Wife M 39 F Codicote, Hertford, England Norman THRALE Rel: Son Occ: Scholar U 16 M Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Alice THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 12 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Rosa THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 10 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Charlotte THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 9 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Clara THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 6 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Ralph THRALE Rel: Son U 2 M Hertford, Hertford, England Infant THRALE Rel: Daur U 6d F Hertford, Hertford, England Sophia COBB Rel: Nurse Occ: Monthly Nurse S M S 59 F Kimpton, Hertford, England,Address:
    Port Hill Common - 3 Apr 1881 - Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England    		 Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 18 Mar 1900 - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Address:
    The Folly PH - - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England    		 Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S22] Web, http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=33155132&st=1.

    2. [S11] David H Thrale, Visit to Wheathampstead cemetery 14 May 2005.

    3. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 102.

    4. [S21] International Genealogical Index, (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp), Batch C016752.

    5. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), page 121.

    6. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 103.

    7. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 104.

    8. [S7] Census - UK 1881.

    9. [S4] Birth certificate.

    10. [S28] Marriage certificate, Dec 1891 Hertford 3a 799. marriage certificate of Samuel Walls & Alice Gertrude Thrale.

    11. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 106.

    12. [S18] GRO index (UK), March qtr 1900, St Albans aged 69 3a 450.

    13. [S31] Monumental inscriptions, (Herts Family & Population History Society), Wheathampstead cemetary.

    14. [S144] Richard William Thrale, Handwritten descendant chart for Thomas Thrale 1801-1840 sent to David H Thrale on 25 January 2007.

    15. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 121.

    16. [S5] British Isles Vital Record Index, Second Edition.

    17. [S7] Census - UK 1881, FHL Film 1341346 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1423 Folio 70 Page 8.


 

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