Thrale history

Nomansland, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Nomansland, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England



 


Tree: UK Thrale family

Notes:

A "Mr. Thrale" was recorded as being at No Mans Land in 1558, during Princess Elizabeth's escape from Queen Mary. William Thrale who died in about 1589, was the first fully documented Thrale to hold No Mans Land and remained in Thrale ownership until the death of William Thrale in December 1883 - at least 325 years.

Nomansland Common

Sporting events

In the 1952 publication 'Historic Sandridge', author Richard William Thrale (1931-2007) wrote:

Village life was enhanced by various sports on No Man’s Land, where the gallows had been erected in the fifteenth century. Watford beat Hertfordshire in a cricket match by 104 runs in August 1824.

In 1829 a race meeting was promoted by Thomas Coleman, a well-known trainer of horses, who lived at the Chequers Inn, St Albans. The King’s horse won the Gorhambury Stakes, but the meeting was not a financial success. A two-day steeplechase meeting was held in mid-May 1833.

Also in May 1833, a dreadful fight took place in which Deaf Burke knocked out Simon Byrne, the champion of Ireland, in the ninety-ninth round. They were fighting for three hours and sixteen minutes. Mr. Byrne died four days later, so Mr. Burke and his seconds were tried for manslaughter, but they avoided any penalty as it could not be proved that death was caused by the injuries sustained in the fight.

Nomansland Farmhouse

In the 1952 publication 'Historic Sandridge', author Richard William Thrale (1931-2007) wrote:

For some reason, the two brothers Ralph Norman and William Thrale, did not show any desire to marry, and these two bachelor brothers lived at No Mans Land as country gentlemen and with their death, the No Mans Land succession came to an end. Other people at the current time can still remember their parents speaking of them, and some of their activities have almost passed into legend.

One brother, for instance, is reported to have been extremely accurate with a catapult, and the other with a bow and arrow: both were crack shots with the rifle.

The Thrale Collection Museum

They were also very keen collectors, and another hearsay legend is that one of the exhibits in their museum was a preserved lady's hand in a black glove! The museum was housed in the large rooms built for the old No Mans Land Harriers, as already related. There is preserved at the County Muniment Room the title page and catalogue of 'Thrales Collection'. A description of 1880 tells of a visit to the museum, there being at that time only one remaining Thrale (William) who was then eighty years old. The collection consisted in the first place of animals and birds killed on the farm and stuffed by the brothers. 'Every sort of indigenous vermin from the field mouse up to the big dog fox: and at the head of the wild beasts ending their days on the farm, a Bengal Tiger! The second part consisted of every kind of flower and grass that the farm grew'.

Besides these items there were pieces of armour, and cannon balls weighing anything from two to fourteen pounds which had been dug up in the neighbourhood. Although local tradition supposed the latter to be relics from the Civil War, they were no doubt used during the second battle of St. Albans which occurred in 1461 and was fought on Bernards Heath. During the battle, Henry VI was reputedly sent to Sandridge and then to the Common.

The 'Bengal Tiger' was described in the catalogue as being in Case No.1. labelled a panther or Ceylon leopard. A short description of its history was given, but the fullest information is given by a delightful piece of journalese which appeared in the Herts Reformer of 7th June 1836. The account is given full length for it is a piece most evocative of that time and also mentions the Lattimores, a family well-known in the locality during the second half of the nineteenth century. The debate as to whether it was a Thrale or a Mardall who really should have the credit for the kill continued in the family for decades!

Herbert and Sons, workers excursion 1870

On 9 July 1870 was the annual workers' excursion for Messrs. Herbert and Sons, scale-makers and gas fitters, of St. George-street, E., King's Cross, and 7, West Smithfield, E.C. London, to Nomansland Farm and the King William pub. The published account of the excursion.

Wheathampstead Anniversary Fete 1876

Two weeks before Ralph Norman Thrale's death, the Wheathampstead Anniversary Fete was held at Nomansland Farm. It was reported on by the Herts Advertiser & St Albans Times on 29 July 1876, page 8.

The brothers' deaths and 1884 sale of Nomansland Farm

Ralph Norman Thrale died on 27 July 1876, and his younger brother William Thrale died on 8 December 1883.

After their deaths the land, farm, farmhouse and contents - including the Thrale Collection were sold.

Title page of the catalogue of Thrale's Collection at No Mans Land Farm, Sandridge. 29 May 1884.
Sale Catalogue of Thrale's Collection at No Mans Land Farm, Sandridge. 29 May 1884.

Location : Latitude: 51.797628, Longitude: -0.303583


Media

Photos
Village shield
Village shield
Sandridge village shield
Wicked Lady public house, Sandridge
Wicked Lady public house, Sandridge

Documents
Thomas Thrale's will (d.1600)
Thomas Thrale's will (d.1600)
Will dated 8 September 1600
'Mark' of Thomas Thrale
'Mark' of Thomas Thrale
In this period, most people were illiterate, and used an "X" to mark their name on documents. However Thomas used the mark of the broad arrow to sign his agreement to his own will on 8 September 1600.

This mark has since been adopted as the logo for this website - Thrale.com.
Nomansland Farm excursion - newspaper account
Nomansland Farm excursion - newspaper account
Messrs. Herbert and Sons, scale-makers and gas fitters, of St. George-street, E., King's Cross, and 7, West Smithfield. 9 Jul 1870
Nomansland Farm excursion - newspaper receipt
Nomansland Farm excursion - newspaper receipt
Enthralling tales of Thrale family's colourful past
Enthralling tales of Thrale family's colourful past
Tribute to Richard W Thrale in local paper after his death
William THRALE probate
William THRALE probate
Probate index. Administration (with the Will and Codicil) of the Personal Estate of William Thrale late of No Man's Land Sandridge in the County of Hertford who died 8 December 1883 at No Man's Land was granted at the Principal Registry to Henry Mardall of Harpenden in the said the said County Brewer the Great Nephew one of the Residuary Legatees. Personal Estate: £746 13s 6d.
Thrale's Collection, sale catalogue title page
Thrale's Collection, sale catalogue title page
The title page of the sale catalogue of Thrale's Collection which was previously displayed at No Mans Land Farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England.
Thrale's Collection, sale catalogue
Thrale's Collection, sale catalogue
Sale catalogue of Thrale's Collection which was previously displayed at No Mans Land Farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England.

Histories
Nomansland farm.
Nomansland farm.
At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
Nomansland Farm excursion
Nomansland Farm excursion
Account of the 9 Jul 1870 annual workers excursion for Messrs. Herbert and Sons, scale-makers and gas fitters, of St. George-street, E., King's Cross, and 7, West Smithfield, E.C., to Nomansland Farm and the King William pub.
The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
J.H. Busby.Notes and Queries, p.495-498. 13 November 1948.
Right Name, Wrong Body.
Right Name, Wrong Body.
Chris Reynolds. May 2020.
Broad Arrow
Broad Arrow
Princess Elizabeth thanked the Thrale family securing her escape from Queen Mary between 1556 and 1558, by hiding her up a tree on their farm at Nomansland - which was just 6 miles from Hatfield House. When Elizabeth became Queen she repaid the Thrale family by giving them family arms and a Broad Arrow.
Wheathampstead 1876 anniversary fete
Wheathampstead 1876 anniversary fete
Held at Nomansland Farm, Sandridge.
Historic Sandridge. The story of a Hertfordshire parish (1952).
Historic Sandridge. The story of a Hertfordshire parish (1952).
The first substantial chronicle of Thrale history, written by R.W. Thrale (1931-2007) & E. Giles. Reproduced in full with consent of the author.
A New Thraliana (1973)
A New Thraliana (1973)
A chronicle of the Thrale family of Hertfordshire by Richard William Thrale (1931-2007), building on the Thrale chapter from the 1952 book Historic Sandridge. Reproduced in full with consent of the author.

Birth

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Birth    Person ID   Tree 
1 THRALE, Ralph  Bef 30 May 1712I64 UK Thrale family 

Death

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Death    Person ID   Tree 
1 CROUCH, Mary  1743I182 UK Thrale family 
2 THRALE, Ralph  Between 1 Jan 1705 and 30 Apr 1705I359 UK Thrale family 
3 THRALE, Ralph Norman  27 Jul 1876I161 UK Thrale family 
4 THRALE, William  8 Dec 1883I162 UK Thrale family 

Census

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Census    Person ID   Tree 
1 THRALE, William  1881I162 UK Thrale family 

Occupation

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Occupation    Person ID   Tree 
1 THRALE, Richard  I328 UK Thrale family 

Property

Matches 1 to 7 of 7

   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Property    Person ID   Tree 
1 THRALE, Ralph  I154 UK Thrale family 
2 THRALE, Ralph  I155 UK Thrale family 
3 THRALE, Ralph  1630I104 UK Thrale family 
4 THRALE, Ralph  Bef 1722I179 UK Thrale family 
5 THRALE, Ralph Norman  I161 UK Thrale family 
6 THRALE, William  I352 UK Thrale family 
7 THRALE, William  1881I162 UK Thrale family 

Residence

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Residence    Person ID   Tree 
1 CROUCH, Mary  I182 UK Thrale family 

Will

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   Last Name, Given Name(s)    Will    Person ID   Tree 
1 CROUCH, Mary  20 Dec 1725I182 UK Thrale family