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Robert THRALE, the younger

Male Bef 1509 - Abt 1541  (32 years)

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  • Name Robert THRALE 
    Suffix the younger 
    Birth Bef 1509  [1
    Gender Male 
    Property Between 1536 and 1540  Napsbury, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    The fate of Napsbury, Thrale's End as far as the Thrale holding is concerned is also not really known. Apparently, just before the Dissolution the abbot leased Napsbury to William Marston for 90 years. If the rent was in arrears, the abbot was to be allowed to enter the manor within one month. After the Dissolution the King granted it in 1540 to Ralph Rowlatt. Robert Thrale must therefore have held Napsbury some time between the tenure of Marston and Rowlatt, perhaps when Marston was unable to pay his rent. 
    Land Bef 1541  High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    One Grunwyn left his son three acres formerly of Robert Thrale called Phillipsmith land lying in Tolman Brache as shown in a court roll of 1607. 
    Property to 1541  Sandridgebury, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Inherited upon the death of his father.

    The Rowlatts, Ralph and his son, Sir Ralph, in their conflict with the Thrales, made the case, in Chancery that before the Dissolution of the Monastery of St. Albans the abbot had granted a forty-year lease of Sandridgebury, and of Napsbury to Robert Thrale the younger. When Sir Ralph Rowlatt inherited the properties in 1542, he was not able to find the abbot's part of the lease and therefore did not know what covenants Robert Thrale the younger had entered into regarding the farm, nor for certain the length of the lease. Sir Ralph asked the executor of Robert Thrale's will, the Reverend Henry Kyrke, to produce therefore their part of the lease. Then in a further action Sir Ralph claimed that the Reverend Kyrke as executor, and trustee of Sandridgebury Farm until Robert's sons Thomas and Alban had reached the age of 21, had granted all his interests in the property to him. But Alice Fitz, the widow of Robert Thrale the elder, had entered Sandridgebury without any right and would not give it up. Alice in her turn replied that Robert Thrale the younger's widow Jane had died shortly after him, and that the Reverend Kyrke assigned the property to her, Alice, in trust for her grand-children. How the matter turned out is not known, but the Thrales continued to live at Sandridgebury for a further four generations. 
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    Property to 1541  Fairfolds farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Robert Thrale the younger did not long survive his father and died in 1541, leaving a young family of four sons and two daughters. His farm Sandridge Bury, in accordance with his father's will, went to his elder sons, Thomas and Alban, and he left other lands in Sandridge to his sons as follows (Arch. St. Albans Reg. Ewer fol. 27 (Richard Thrale d 1541) and Reg. Clapton fo. 132 (William Thrale d. 1589)):
     
    Death Abt 1541  [5
    Will 18 Mar 1541  Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    ABSTRACT OF THE WILL OF ROBERT THRALLE OF THE PARISH SANDRYGE WITHIN THE LIBERTY OF SAINT ALBANS [COUNTY HERTFORD].

    DATED: 18 March 1541. - PROVED. 21 May 1541. Archd. St. Albans. Reg. Ewer. fo.27.


    I bequeth to the hye aulter ther [?Sandridg] for tythys negligentlye forgotten iiijd.

    I wyll that Jane my Wife shall have and occupye my farme that I nowe dwell yn unto the tyme that thomas my sone come to the age of XIX yerys. And then I wyll the seid thomas and Albone my sonnes shall have the seid farme to them and to there heres accordynes to the last Wyll of robert thrall my fathar. And yf ytt fortune my seid Wyfe to decesse than I wyll that executors shall have holde and occupye other elles lett the seid farme to any other by there descrecyon to the use of my seide chyldren unto the tyme they be of the age before rehersyde. And yf ytt fortune my seide sonnes thomas and albon to decese before they be of the age aforere rehersyde then I wyll that John and Will[ia]m to have the seide farme to the[m] and there heres and yf yt fortune my sonnes John and Willliam to decesse then I wyll the seide farme to be at the dysposicyon and dyscrecyon of myn executors. I knowlege by thys my last Wyll and testament that by the assent of the lorde M[aste]r Rauf rowlett the elder I have madea surrendre yn to the handes of ij of the lordes tenauntes that ys to say John wetherhede and Will[ia]m clarke accordynge to the custome and manor of the lordshype to the use and behoufe of my chyldren uppone the declaracyon of thys my last Wyll and testament yn maner and forme followynge. As by the seide surrendre p[ar]tly doth apper In primus unto thomas my sone and house with app[ur]tenances and the landes therto belongynge as ytt apperythe by the copyes therof called town[n]ynges [?] to hym and to hys eres after custome and maner. Item to Albone my sonne a house wyth the app[ur]tenances callyde Phylype smythes to hym and to hys eres after custome and maner as yt aperythe by the copyes. Item to John my sone serten landes and tenamentes wythther appertenances called feyrwnlfes [?] to hym and hys eres after custome and manner as ytt aperyth by the copyes. Item to William my sone serten landes and teneamentes Wyth there appurtenances callyd Grownwynd Malewerdecroft and Howberys to hym and hys eres after custome and maner as yt aperyth by copyes ofthe same. And yf ytt fortune any of the seide sones to decesse then I Wyll the porcyon of landes of hym surrendred remayne unto my eldyst and soe lynyally descendynge one to be ere to the other. And yf yt fortune them All to decesse wyth owt eres of there bodyes lawfully begotten then I Wyll accordynge to my surrendre that my hole landes and teneamentes remayne unto my i j daughtors and to there eres after custome and maner. And yf yt fortune all my chyldren to decesse then I Wyll that Alyce Vyzth my mother to have all my seid landes and tenementes to have and to here assyners ~ accordynge to my surendre duryng here naturall lyfe I will that myn executors shall receve All singuler the rentes of my landes and tenementes before seid unto the tyme my sonnes be of the age of xxj yeres and so longe after as my mother doth lyve and yerely to paye unto my seid mother v j li sterlyng at the towne of Apsley yn the countye of Hereford 1 at ij termysyn the yere that ys at the fest of the Annuncyacyon of o[u]r ladye and fest of seint mychell the archangell …… by equall porcyon yn avoydynge the daunger [?] of an obligetyon of an hu[n]dred poundes yn the wyche I myne eres executors and assyners stand bound as by the seid obligaton more planly dothe apere. I bequeth to alice my doughter iijli . I wyll that all my moveable goodes as well yn corne cattell my crope Wyth other housholde stufe be sold by myn executors for the p[er]forma[n]s of the Wyll of Robert thrale my father and to paye my dettes and the rest ther of to be dyvydyd amonge my chyldrens by equall porcyonby the discrecyon of myne executors. The rest of all my goodes my dettes payd `…… I wyll they be at the oderynge and dysposcyon of S[i]r Henry Kyrbe p[rie]st and William adamys of sandryge the wyche I make my executors and they to do for my soule and the Welthe of my chyldrene as my trust ys yn them that yt maye be to goode plesure and to the dyscharge of ther Conseyens. And the overseers of thys my Wyll I doe make and ordeyne Alice vizthe my mother and John hewett and ev[er]y the of the[m] to have for ther dygent labor Xs.

    Thes berynge Wyttnesse John Wetherhed. Will[ia]lm clarke. John benysse [?].Wyll[ia]m adams [?]. with other
    Proved 21 May 1541 by executors.
    Archd. St. Albans. Reg. Ewer. fo.27. 
      1. The word here has been inserted in a different hand. It is probably intended to be Hertford.↩︎
      [6]
    Burial Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Person ID I334  UK Thrale family
    Last Modified 7 Jul 2025 

    Father Robert THRALE, the elder,   b. Bef 1509   d. 1538 (Age 29 years) 
    Mother Alice   d. Aft 1544 
    Notes 
    • Alice Thrale did remarry, as she is named in her son's will as Alice 'Vyyzth.' [2]
    Family ID F169  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Jane   d. Between 1538 and 1542 
    Children 
    +1. Thomas THRALE,   b. Bef 1523   d. 1603 (Age 80 years)
     2. Alban THRALE,   b. Bef 18 Mar 1541   d. 1591 (Age > 49 years)
     3. Alice THRALE,   b. Bef 18 Mar 1541   d. Abt 1589 (Age > 47 years)
    +4. John THRALE,   b. Bef 18 Mar 1541   d. 1617 (Age > 75 years)
     5. William THRALE,   b. Bef 18 Mar 1541   d. Abt 1589 (Age > 47 years)
    Family ID F63  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 19 Jan 2024 

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    Link to Google MapsProperty - The fate of Napsbury, Thrale's End as far as the Thrale holding is concerned is also not really known. Apparently, just before the Dissolution the abbot leased Napsbury to William Marston for 90 years. If the rent was in arrears, the abbot was to be allowed to enter the manor within one month. After the Dissolution the King granted it in 1540 to Ralph Rowlatt. Robert Thrale must therefore have held Napsbury some time between the tenure of Marston and Rowlatt, perhaps when Marston was unable to pay his rent. - Between 1536 and 1540 - Napsbury, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsProperty - Inherited upon the death of his father. The Rowlatts, Ralph and his son, Sir Ralph, in their conflict with the Thrales, made the case, in Chancery that before the Dissolution of the Monastery of St. Albans the abbot had granted a forty-year lease of Sandridgebury, and of Napsbury to Robert Thrale the younger. When Sir Ralph Rowlatt inherited the properties in 1542, he was not able to find the abbot's part of the lease and therefore did not know what covenants Robert Thrale the younger had entered into regarding the farm, nor for certain the length of the lease. Sir Ralph asked the executor of Robert Thrale's will, the Reverend Henry Kyrke, to produce therefore their part of the lease. Then in a further action Sir Ralph claimed that the Reverend Kyrke as executor, and trustee of Sandridgebury Farm until Robert's sons Thomas and Alban had reached the age of 21, had granted all his interests in the property to him. But Alice Fitz, the widow of Robert Thrale the elder, had entered Sandridgebury without any right and would not give it up. Alice in her turn replied that Robert Thrale the younger's widow Jane had died shortly after him, and that the Reverend Kyrke assigned the property to her, Alice, in trust for her grand-children. How the matter turned out is not known, but the Thrales continued to live at Sandridgebury for a further four generations. - to 1541 - Sandridgebury, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsProperty - Robert Thrale the younger did not long survive his father and died in 1541, leaving a young family of four sons and two daughters. His farm Sandridge Bury, in accordance with his father's will, went to his elder sons, Thomas and Alban, and he left other lands in Sandridge to his sons as follows (Arch. St. Albans Reg. Ewer fol. 27 (Richard Thrale d 1541) and Reg. Clapton fo. 132 (William Thrale d. 1589)): - to 1541 - Fairfolds farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsWill - ABSTRACT OF THE WILL OF ROBERT THRALLE OF THE PARISH SANDRYGE WITHIN THE LIBERTY OF SAINT ALBANS [COUNTY HERTFORD].

    DATED: 18 March 1541. - PROVED. 21 May 1541. Archd. St. Albans. Reg. Ewer. fo.27.


    I bequeth to the hye aulter ther [?Sandridg] for tythys negligentlye forgotten iiijd.

    I wyll that Jane my Wife shall have and occupye my farme that I nowe dwell yn unto the tyme that thomas my sone come to the age of XIX yerys. And then I wyll the seid thomas and Albone my sonnes shall have the seid farme to them and to there heres accordynes to the last Wyll of robert thrall my fathar. And yf ytt fortune my seid Wyfe to decesse than I wyll that executors shall have holde and occupye other elles lett the seid farme to any other by there descrecyon to the use of my seide chyldren unto the tyme they be of the age before rehersyde. And yf ytt fortune my seide sonnes thomas and albon to decese before they be of the age aforere rehersyde then I wyll that John and Will[ia]m to have the seide farme to the[m] and there heres and yf yt fortune my sonnes John and Willliam to decesse then I wyll the seide farme to be at the dysposicyon and dyscrecyon of myn executors. I knowlege by thys my last Wyll and testament that by the assent of the lorde M[aste]r Rauf rowlett the elder I have madea surrendre yn to the handes of ij of the lordes tenauntes that ys to say John wetherhede and Will[ia]m clarke accordynge to the custome and manor of the lordshype to the use and behoufe of my chyldren uppone the declaracyon of thys my last Wyll and testament yn maner and forme followynge. As by the seide surrendre p[ar]tly doth apper In primus unto thomas my sone and house with app[ur]tenances and the landes therto belongynge as ytt apperythe by the copyes therof called town[n]ynges [?] to hym and to hys eres after custome and maner. Item to Albone my sonne a house wyth the app[ur]tenances callyde Phylype smythes to hym and to hys eres after custome and maner as yt aperythe by the copyes. Item to John my sone serten landes and tenamentes wythther appertenances called feyrwnlfes [?] to hym and hys eres after custome and manner as ytt aperyth by the copyes. Item to William my sone serten landes and teneamentes Wyth there appurtenances callyd Grownwynd Malewerdecroft and Howberys to hym and hys eres after custome and maner as yt aperyth by copyes ofthe same. And yf ytt fortune any of the seide sones to decesse then I Wyll the porcyon of landes of hym surrendred remayne unto my eldyst and soe lynyally descendynge one to be ere to the other. And yf yt fortune them All to decesse wyth owt eres of there bodyes lawfully begotten then I Wyll accordynge to my surrendre that my hole landes and teneamentes remayne unto my i j daughtors and to there eres after custome and maner. And yf yt fortune all my chyldren to decesse then I Wyll that Alyce Vyzth my mother to have all my seid landes and tenementes to have and to here assyners ~ accordynge to my surendre duryng here naturall lyfe I will that myn executors shall receve All singuler the rentes of my landes and tenementes before seid unto the tyme my sonnes be of the age of xxj yeres and so longe after as my mother doth lyve and yerely to paye unto my seid mother v j li sterlyng at the towne of Apsley yn the countye of Hereford 1 at ij termysyn the yere that ys at the fest of the Annuncyacyon of o[u]r ladye and fest of seint mychell the archangell …… by equall porcyon yn avoydynge the daunger [?] of an obligetyon of an hu[n]dred poundes yn the wyche I myne eres executors and assyners stand bound as by the seid obligaton more planly dothe apere. I bequeth to alice my doughter iijli . I wyll that all my moveable goodes as well yn corne cattell my crope Wyth other housholde stufe be sold by myn executors for the p[er]forma[n]s of the Wyll of Robert thrale my father and to paye my dettes and the rest ther of to be dyvydyd amonge my chyldrens by equall porcyonby the discrecyon of myne executors. The rest of all my goodes my dettes payd `…… I wyll they be at the oderynge and dysposcyon of S[i]r Henry Kyrbe p[rie]st and William adamys of sandryge the wyche I make my executors and they to do for my soule and the Welthe of my chyldrene as my trust ys yn them that yt maye be to goode plesure and to the dyscharge of ther Conseyens. And the overseers of thys my Wyll I doe make and ordeyne Alice vizthe my mother and John hewett and ev[er]y the of the[m] to have for ther dygent labor Xs.

    Thes berynge Wyttnesse John Wetherhed. Will[ia]lm clarke. John benysse [?].Wyll[ia]m adams [?]. with other
    Proved 21 May 1541 by executors.
    Archd. St. Albans. Reg. Ewer. fo.27. - 18 Mar 1541 - Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England
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    Link to Google MapsBurial - - Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Histories
    The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
    The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
    Major J.H. Busby, M.B.E. Notes and Queries, p.495-498. 13 November 1948.

  • Sources 
    1. [S22] Web, http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-1775350&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CTHRALE%2CTHRALE.

    2. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 16.

    3. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 23.
      "John Thrale, the son of John of Fairfolds, had held Sleapside, actually in the parish of St. Peters, and although at the time of his death in 1609 he left a young family, no further descent can be traced."

    4. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.).

    5. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 21.

    6. [S120] Abstracts and photocopies of wills: Thrale.