connected with the Thrale family who for centuries farmed lands a few miles north east of St. Albans at Sandridge until half a century ago; they also had a museum. By heresay Mr. Samuel Wellingham of Hammonds, married a Miss Esther Thrale; Mr. Grindon married another Miss Thrale. Mr. White, son of a White-Pemberton marriage, married their daughter Miss Grindon; of this marriage one daughter, Miss E.P. White, died unmarried; another daughter married Mr. Gale, whose son Charles Gale married a Miss Wood, a niece of James Wood the banker; and a son James White born 1780, died 1847, married during the years 1800 - 1812 in Europe, Miss Jeanie Joubert, daughter of a French Huguenot, whose wife was Miss Bothia Collins; of their large family, one family sprung through a Miss Joubert marrying a Mr. Sergeant at the Cape. Mr. James White of Grahamstown and Mr. Joubert with their families were amongst the 1820 Cape Settlers. Their lineage and Thrale connections were sought. Miss E.P. White died at St. Albans January 25th 1864 aged 86 years. One monument at St. Peters in St. Albans covers Miss White and Matilda Williams who died August 18th 1863 aged 63 years, and covers also a legendary romance of royalty'.
Such was the provenance of this old manuscript. No-one really seems to know more about Mr. Foster's latter reference to a further legendary romance of royalty. The place of the South African family in the genealogy of the Thrales will be detailed later.
The College of Arms can find no record of such a grant of arms. Many authorities9 seem agreed that the journey of Elizabeth took the following form and itinerary. The time when Elizabeth was in real danger was during Wyatt's rebellion, when Mary ordered Elizabeth to return from Ashridge to London. The journey would have been the only one which would have brought Elizabeth anywhere near No Mans Land, and then she would only be under semi-arrest. She was sick and was carried in a litter and passed through Redbourn where she stayed all night. From thence to St. Albans where she stayed at Sir Ralph Rowlatt's house where she 'tarried all that night all heavy, feeble in body and comfortless in mind'. From there they passed to Master Dodd's house at Mimms where they remained one night, and from thence to Highgate where she stayed at Mr. Cholmley's house. She left Ashridge in January 1554 and arrived at London on 28th February. What really happened during this period of time?
Rev. Ian Dunlop, author of 'Palaces and Progresses of Elizabeth I'10 considers where there is smoke there is usually fire. One curious
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